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	<title>Comments on: SharePoint Branding &#8211; How CSS works with master pages &#8211; Part 3</title>
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		<title>By: Customizing the user experience of SharePoint: Modifying the default experience &#124; SharePoint Magazine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Customizing the user experience of SharePoint: Modifying the default experience &#124; SharePoint Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 08:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Themes are also in the &#8216;made for the eyes&#8217; category and outside the scope here. I don&#8217;t know, I think themes can be useful, but there are quite a few issues with getting them working. SharePoint Magazine author Paul Culmsee has more on the issues of getting themes to work, and a bit on why they don&#8217;t work, in his offsite branding series: http://www.cleverworkarounds.com/2007/10/13/sharepoint-branding-%e2%80%93-how-css-works-with-master-... [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Themes are also in the &#8216;made for the eyes&#8217; category and outside the scope here. I don&#8217;t know, I think themes can be useful, but there are quite a few issues with getting them working. SharePoint Magazine author Paul Culmsee has more on the issues of getting themes to work, and a bit on why they don&#8217;t work, in his offsite branding series: <a href="http://www.cleverworkarounds.com/2007/10/13/sharepoint-branding-%e2%80%93-how-css-works-with-master-.." rel="nofollow">http://www.cleverworkarounds.com/2007/10/13/sharepoint-branding-%e2%80%93-how-css-works-with-master-..</a>. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Santhosh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Santhosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 04:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To know more making your own sharepoint theme with ur design, jus ve a look at this, it ll be very useful

http://santhoz-teaches.blogspot.com/2009/02/sharepoint-themes-unveiled.html

And to download 50+ quality sharepoint themes, go on to www.buytemplates.net

Regards,
Santhosh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To know more making your own sharepoint theme with ur design, jus ve a look at this, it ll be very useful</p>
<p><a href="http://santhoz-teaches.blogspot.com/2009/02/sharepoint-themes-unveiled.html" rel="nofollow">http://santhoz-teaches.blogspot.com/2009/02/sharepoint-themes-unveiled.html</a></p>
<p>And to download 50+ quality sharepoint themes, go on to <a href="http://www.buytemplates.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.buytemplates.net</a></p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Santhosh</p>
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		<title>By: CleverWorkarounds SharePoint Branding How CSS works with &#124; debt solutions</title>
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		<dc:creator>CleverWorkarounds SharePoint Branding How CSS works with &#124; debt solutions</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 01:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] CleverWorkarounds SharePoint Branding How CSS works with   Posted by root 1 hour 21 minutes ago (http://www.cleverworkarounds.com)        Additionally as well as the corporate branding there was another very different branding it is this fact that led me to my final solution that for me installing and updating themes require farm administrator and manual configuration of wfe servers powered        Discuss&#160;  &#124;&#160; Bury &#124;&#160;    News &#124; CleverWorkarounds SharePoint Branding How CSS works with [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] CleverWorkarounds SharePoint Branding How CSS works with   Posted by root 1 hour 21 minutes ago (<a href="http://www.cleverworkarounds.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.cleverworkarounds.com</a>)        Additionally as well as the corporate branding there was another very different branding it is this fact that led me to my final solution that for me installing and updating themes require farm administrator and manual configuration of wfe servers powered        Discuss&nbsp;  |&nbsp; Bury |&nbsp;    News | CleverWorkarounds SharePoint Branding How CSS works with [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 18:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with menudark.gif is that it&#039;s embeded in the page using an img tag so there isn&#039;t a css solution. While it&#039;s not nice the only fix i&#039;ve found so far is to locate the file and turn it into a transparent gif.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with menudark.gif is that it&#8217;s embeded in the page using an img tag so there isn&#8217;t a css solution. While it&#8217;s not nice the only fix i&#8217;ve found so far is to locate the file and turn it into a transparent gif.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 12:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wordpress rocks :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wordpress rocks <img src='http://www.cleverworkarounds.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: emailandthings</title>
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		<dc:creator>emailandthings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 23:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG.. this is a very nice article. It&#039;s no wonder &quot;SucksPoint Consultants&quot; charge an arm and a leg.. ;-)

Thank you very much though!

ps: Arent you glad you are using WordPress rather than sharepoint for your blog? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG.. this is a very nice article. It&#8217;s no wonder &#8220;SucksPoint Consultants&#8221; charge an arm and a leg.. <img src='http://www.cleverworkarounds.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Thank you very much though!</p>
<p>ps: Arent you glad you are using WordPress rather than sharepoint for your blog? <img src='http://www.cleverworkarounds.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 10:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, I never knew that (mind you I&#039;m not a web designer per se) - that is excellent info and combined with the HTTPModule method of dealing with application.master, I really should rehash this whole series as it is showing its age.

You know what threw me? Microsoft named their custom styles with zz to make it appear last when it is obviously unnecessary :-(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, I never knew that (mind you I&#8217;m not a web designer per se) &#8211; that is excellent info and combined with the HTTPModule method of dealing with application.master, I really should rehash this whole series as it is showing its age.</p>
<p>You know what threw me? Microsoft named their custom styles with zz to make it appear last when it is obviously unnecessary <img src='http://www.cleverworkarounds.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 07:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After the word Example in my last comment it should say -&gt; body id=&quot;dm&quot; which I placed in angle brackets and it got interpreted as HTML. Sorry. Feel free to amend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After the word Example in my last comment it should say -&gt; body id=&#8221;dm&#8221; which I placed in angle brackets and it got interpreted as HTML. Sorry. Feel free to amend.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 07:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not sure why there is so much discussion on the web about which css file appears in which order. Remember the Cascading part of cascading style sheets and the specificity of each rule. It doesn&#039;t matter if your css rule appears before or after core.css If you want your rule to win you make it more specific. I have used this approach since SharePoint 2001 and have never had any problems. I place a unique, short ID attribute on my body element in the master page. Example  Then when I find a rule that I want to override that core.css is currently rendering I create a duplicate rule in my stylesheet but place #dm in front of the rule. So for example .ms-WPHeader in core.css becomes #dm .ms-WPHeader in my stylesheet. Now that I have a more specific rule my style rule wins. Works every time. Yes it adds a few extra characters to each rule I want to override but it usually isn&#039;t many when you use the master page settings override or a theme and it requires no custom code or major modifications to SharePoint. I hope this helps someone simplify this misunderstood problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not sure why there is so much discussion on the web about which css file appears in which order. Remember the Cascading part of cascading style sheets and the specificity of each rule. It doesn&#8217;t matter if your css rule appears before or after core.css If you want your rule to win you make it more specific. I have used this approach since SharePoint 2001 and have never had any problems. I place a unique, short ID attribute on my body element in the master page. Example  Then when I find a rule that I want to override that core.css is currently rendering I create a duplicate rule in my stylesheet but place #dm in front of the rule. So for example .ms-WPHeader in core.css becomes #dm .ms-WPHeader in my stylesheet. Now that I have a more specific rule my style rule wins. Works every time. Yes it adds a few extra characters to each rule I want to override but it usually isn&#8217;t many when you use the master page settings override or a theme and it requires no custom code or major modifications to SharePoint. I hope this helps someone simplify this misunderstood problem.</p>
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		<title>By: schwarzmund</title>
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		<dc:creator>schwarzmund</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 00:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yikes!
As I was saying, other custom master settings that may be of interest:
 
SharePoint:CssLink runat=&quot;server&quot; DefaultUrl=&quot;&quot;
SharePoint:CssRegistration points to $SPUrl:~SiteCollection/Style Library/~language/Core Styles/mycustom.css runat=&quot;server&quot;
SharePoint:Theme runat=&quot;server&quot;
SharePoint:ScriptLink language=&quot;javascript&quot; name=&quot;core.js&quot; Defer=&quot;true&quot; runat=&quot;server&quot;
SharePoint:CustomJSUrl runat=&quot;server&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yikes!<br />
As I was saying, other custom master settings that may be of interest:</p>
<p>SharePoint:CssLink runat=&#8221;server&#8221; DefaultUrl=&#8221;"<br />
SharePoint:CssRegistration points to $SPUrl:~SiteCollection/Style Library/~language/Core Styles/mycustom.css runat=&#8221;server&#8221;<br />
SharePoint:Theme runat=&#8221;server&#8221;<br />
SharePoint:ScriptLink language=&#8221;javascript&#8221; name=&#8221;core.js&#8221; Defer=&#8221;true&#8221; runat=&#8221;server&#8221;<br />
SharePoint:CustomJSUrl runat=&#8221;server&#8221;</p>
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