Comments on: It’s all Joel’s fault… http://www.cleverworkarounds.com/2008/10/14/its-all-joels-fault/ After much frustration, it seems DEFAULT is the way to go... Thu, 02 Feb 2012 17:45:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: ankara ambar http://www.cleverworkarounds.com/2008/10/14/its-all-joels-fault/comment-page-1/#comment-77823 ankara ambar Sun, 02 Jan 2011 00:06:45 +0000 http://www.cleverworkarounds.com/2008/10/14/its-all-joels-fault/#comment-77823 thank u thank u

]]> By: SharePoint Governance: Putting Business back in control | End User SharePoint http://www.cleverworkarounds.com/2008/10/14/its-all-joels-fault/comment-page-1/#comment-13213 SharePoint Governance: Putting Business back in control | End User SharePoint Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:02:56 +0000 http://www.cleverworkarounds.com/2008/10/14/its-all-joels-fault/#comment-13213 [...] a term coined by Paul Culmsee, IT and Business consultant for Seven Sigma,  in his post ‘It’s all Joels fault’ where he discusses the same issues around the abuse of the word Governance, the term [...] [...] a term coined by Paul Culmsee, IT and Business consultant for Seven Sigma,  in his post ‘It’s all Joels fault’ where he discusses the same issues around the abuse of the word Governance, the term [...]

]]> By: admin http://www.cleverworkarounds.com/2008/10/14/its-all-joels-fault/comment-page-1/#comment-7566 admin Thu, 26 Mar 2009 03:10:36 +0000 http://www.cleverworkarounds.com/2008/10/14/its-all-joels-fault/#comment-7566 Did I make another buzzword attempt? - Ah this is an old post mate (oct 08), this was the only attempt :-) Andrew, this post is in the same category as the "ISO for fun and profit" one, where my joke may be a little dry for some readers who have taken it literally. "Assurance" may also be a crap word, but its closer to the real meaning. Disregard the social experiment stuff that was never the real message anyway. Is it even possible to find me a word that covers systems thinking and accountability that conveys it clearly to the masses? Jeremy, "Governance is also what is used by Gartner, which is language CIOs understand too" that is the problem. Ask all of them what it means and you will get different answers. Just because its used (buzzword) doesn't make it inherently better :-( Did I make another buzzword attempt? – Ah this is an old post mate (oct 08), this was the only attempt :-)

Andrew, this post is in the same category as the “ISO for fun and profit” one, where my joke may be a little dry for some readers who have taken it literally.

“Assurance” may also be a crap word, but its closer to the real meaning. Disregard the social experiment stuff that was never the real message anyway.

Is it even possible to find me a word that covers systems thinking and accountability that conveys it clearly to the masses?

Jeremy, “Governance is also what is used by Gartner, which is language CIOs understand too” that is the problem. Ask all of them what it means and you will get different answers. Just because its used (buzzword) doesn’t make it inherently better :-(

]]> By: Jeremy Thake http://www.cleverworkarounds.com/2008/10/14/its-all-joels-fault/comment-page-1/#comment-7562 Jeremy Thake Thu, 26 Mar 2009 01:39:26 +0000 http://www.cleverworkarounds.com/2008/10/14/its-all-joels-fault/#comment-7562 You've tried to create buzz words before around SharePoint...I think SharePoint Governance is well and truly baked in and unless Microsoft change their stance I don't think Assurance stands a chance mate! ;-) Whatever the word is, it still needs to be defined in terms of what it means...which as already been started around Robert Bogues work, Tim Curry's Best Practices book, Joel's Governance stuff etc... Governance is also what is used by Gartner, which is language CIOs understand too. There is a big difference between organisations claiming they have governance and a big document defining it and actually following these rules religiously. Take ITIL as an example. You’ve tried to create buzz words before around SharePoint…I think SharePoint Governance is well and truly baked in and unless Microsoft change their stance I don’t think Assurance stands a chance mate! ;-) Whatever the word is, it still needs to be defined in terms of what it means…which as already been started around Robert Bogues work, Tim Curry’s Best Practices book, Joel’s Governance stuff etc…

Governance is also what is used by Gartner, which is language CIOs understand too.

There is a big difference between organisations claiming they have governance and a big document defining it and actually following these rules religiously. Take ITIL as an example.

]]> By: Andrew Woodward http://www.cleverworkarounds.com/2008/10/14/its-all-joels-fault/comment-page-1/#comment-7559 Andrew Woodward Thu, 26 Mar 2009 01:15:04 +0000 http://www.cleverworkarounds.com/2008/10/14/its-all-joels-fault/#comment-7559 I think Robert Bogue may have been in alliance (or the same meetings) as Joel in 2006. http://www.intranetjournal.com/articles/200611/ij_11_27_06a.html I'm afraid the Governance term seems to be sticking. But ask people what it means and very few will cover the breadth or depth of what was originally implied. I'm all for removing these exposing marketing buzzwords, we have enough myths and magic around the SharePoint platform without inventing more. SharePoint Assurance - to close to Software Assurance for Microsoft to pick this up I fear. But as you have so well defined above Assurance is really what is meant - what we are really seeing is the tradtional Software Quality Assurance and concepts covered by the likes of ITIL being repackaged. I don't disagree with the idea of making this more accessible, I just hate the way everyone now claims to have 'Governance' sorted when all they really have is a document that just summerises what they most likey have in policies and procedures in there QMS system. I think Robert Bogue may have been in alliance (or the same meetings) as Joel in 2006. http://www.intranetjournal.com/articles/200611/ij_11_27_06a.html

I’m afraid the Governance term seems to be sticking. But ask people what it means and very few will cover the breadth or depth of what was originally implied.

I’m all for removing these exposing marketing buzzwords, we have enough myths and magic around the SharePoint platform without inventing more.

SharePoint Assurance – to close to Software Assurance for Microsoft to pick this up I fear. But as you have so well defined above Assurance is really what is meant – what we are really seeing is the tradtional Software Quality Assurance and concepts covered by the likes of ITIL being repackaged.

I don’t disagree with the idea of making this more accessible, I just hate the way everyone now claims to have ‘Governance’ sorted when all they really have is a document that just summerises what they most likey have in policies and procedures in there QMS system.

]]> By: Root Causes of Communication Fragmentation: Part 2 - Organizational Culture | End User SharePoint http://www.cleverworkarounds.com/2008/10/14/its-all-joels-fault/comment-page-1/#comment-7133 Root Causes of Communication Fragmentation: Part 2 - Organizational Culture | End User SharePoint Thu, 19 Mar 2009 06:01:13 +0000 http://www.cleverworkarounds.com/2008/10/14/its-all-joels-fault/#comment-7133 [...] that with the fact that the term "Knowledge Management" suffers from rampant buzzword abuse in the same way that the term "Governance" does. This abuse reflects itself in academia [...] [...] that with the fact that the term "Knowledge Management" suffers from rampant buzzword abuse in the same way that the term "Governance" does. This abuse reflects itself in academia [...]

]]> By: CleverWorkarounds » Root Causes of Communication Fragmentation: Organisational Culture http://www.cleverworkarounds.com/2008/10/14/its-all-joels-fault/comment-page-1/#comment-3596 CleverWorkarounds » Root Causes of Communication Fragmentation: Organisational Culture Mon, 17 Nov 2008 05:39:48 +0000 http://www.cleverworkarounds.com/2008/10/14/its-all-joels-fault/#comment-3596 [...] that with the fact that the term "Knowledge Management" suffers from rampant buzzword abuse in the same way that the term "Governance" does. This abuse reflects itself in academia [...] [...] that with the fact that the term "Knowledge Management" suffers from rampant buzzword abuse in the same way that the term "Governance" does. This abuse reflects itself in academia [...]

]]> By: John Miller http://www.cleverworkarounds.com/2008/10/14/its-all-joels-fault/comment-page-1/#comment-2982 John Miller Tue, 14 Oct 2008 15:05:36 +0000 http://www.cleverworkarounds.com/2008/10/14/its-all-joels-fault/#comment-2982 loved this article, it dovetails with work I'm currently doing. I posted an article with where I see Sharepoint Assurance leading us. hint (hybrid approach with IT and business units). http://www.mobiusdevelopment.com/dev/Help.asp?ArticleID=255453214967806093 loved this article, it dovetails with work I’m currently doing. I posted an article with where I see Sharepoint Assurance leading us. hint (hybrid approach with IT and business units).

http://www.mobiusdevelopment.com/dev/Help.asp?ArticleID=255453214967806093

]]> By: SharePoint Daily for October 14, 2008 - SharePoint Daily http://www.cleverworkarounds.com/2008/10/14/its-all-joels-fault/comment-page-1/#comment-2981 SharePoint Daily for October 14, 2008 - SharePoint Daily Tue, 14 Oct 2008 13:38:58 +0000 http://www.cleverworkarounds.com/2008/10/14/its-all-joels-fault/#comment-2981 [...] It’s All Joel’s Fault… (Clever Workarounds)Here we go - another cleverworkarounds waffle! Now we all know that Joel Oleson is the Russell Crowe of the SharePoint world! I mean, he’s multi-skilled, loads of talent, has the respect of his peers and has built a well deserved reputation of being one of the best at what he does. (Although unlike Russell I am fairly sure that he has not thrown a telephone at an annoying IT manager in a fit of rage just yet). [...] [...] It’s All Joel’s Fault… (Clever Workarounds)Here we go – another cleverworkarounds waffle! Now we all know that Joel Oleson is the Russell Crowe of the SharePoint world! I mean, he’s multi-skilled, loads of talent, has the respect of his peers and has built a well deserved reputation of being one of the best at what he does. (Although unlike Russell I am fairly sure that he has not thrown a telephone at an annoying IT manager in a fit of rage just yet). [...]

]]> By: jthake's Bookmarks on Delicious http://www.cleverworkarounds.com/2008/10/14/its-all-joels-fault/comment-page-1/#comment-2975 jthake's Bookmarks on Delicious Tue, 14 Oct 2008 05:20:37 +0000 http://www.cleverworkarounds.com/2008/10/14/its-all-joels-fault/#comment-2975 [...] CleverWorkarounds » It’s all Joel’s fault… SAVE [...] [...] CleverWorkarounds » It’s all Joel’s fault… SAVE [...]

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