SBS 2008, Hewlett Packard, WSS3, Search Server 2008 Express and a UPS – Oh the pain!

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In the words of Doctor Smith from lost in space, while everyone else was in Vegas having a grand old time, I was at a client site, having to come to grips with the beast known as Windows Small Business Server 2008. I rarely work with SBS2003 and had never used SBS2008 until now.

This was one of those engagements that is somewhat similar to those awful dreams that you have when you are trying to get to some place, but you never quite get there and your subconscious puts all sorts of strange and surreal obstacles in your path. In my case, the surreal obstacles were very real, yet some of them were really really dumb. Whatsmore, it is a very sad indictment on IT at several levels and a testament to how complexity will never be tamed with yet more complexity.

As a result, I really fear the direction that IT in general is heading.

So where to begin? This project was easy enough in theory. A former colleague called me up because he knew of my dim, dark past in the world of Cisco, Active Directory and SharePoint. He asked me to help put in SBS2008 for him, configuring Exchange/AD/SharePoint and migrating his environment over to it.

“Sure”, I say, “it’ll be a snap” (famous last words)


I haven’t use the coffee or tequila ratings for a while, so I thought that this post was apt for dusting them off. If you check the Why do SharePoint Projects Fail series, you will see that I use tequila shots or coffee at times. In this case, I will use the tequila shots to demonstrate my stress levels.

Attempt 1

We start our sorry tale a few weeks ago, where my client had ordered Small Business Server 2008 and the media/key had not arrived by the time I was due to start. The supplier came to the rescue by sending them a copy of the media and promised to send the license key in a couple of days.

The server was a HP Proliant DL360 G6, a seemingly nice box with some good features at a reasonable price. HP/Compaq people will be familiar with the SmartStart software and process, where instead of using the windows media, you pop in the supplied SmartStart CD and it will perform some admin tasks, before asking for the windows media, auto-magically slipstreaming drivers and semi-automating the install.

On client machines, I never use the CD from the vendor because there is always too much bloatware crap. However on servers I generally do use the CD, because it tends to come with all the tools necessary to manage disk storage, firmware and the like. I dutifully popped in SmartStart CD, answered a few basic questions, and it asked for the windows media CD.

Cleverworkarounds stress rating: Good so far

Next it asked me for the Windows SBS2008 licence key. Of course, I was using media that had been lent to us from the supplier because my client’s media (and keys) had not arrived. Thus, since I did not have a license key I was unable to proceed with the install using this preferred manner. HP, in their infinite wisdom, have assumed that you always have the license key when you install via their SmartStart CD, despite Microsoft giving you 30 days to activate the product. To be fair on HP, they are hooking into Microsoft’s unattended installation framework, so perhaps the blame should be shared.

All was not lost however. The SmartStart CD can be run after windows has been installed. It then will install all the necessary “HP bits” like graphics and system board drivers. So I booted off the Windows CD and fortunately, windows installer detected the HP storage controller and the disk array,  and proceeded to let me partition it and install.

Cleverworkarounds stress rating: Minor annoyance, but good so far

Small Business Server 2008 did its thing and then loaded up a post install wizard that sets the timezone, active directory domain name and the like. At a certain step when running this wizard, SBS2008 informed me that there was no network card with a driver loaded, so it could not continue. As it turns out, Microsoft’s initial SBS2008 configuration wizard simply will not proceed unless it finds a valid network card. But since this is the pre-install wizard, we are not yet at the point in the installation where we have a proper windows desktop with start menu and windows explorer. All is not lost (apparently), because SBS allows you to start device manager from within the wizard and search for the driver.

Fair enough, I think to myself, so I pop in the HP SmartStart CD and tell device manager to search the media.

Cleverworkarounds stress rating: Spider senses tingle that today might not turn out well


Windows device manager comes back and tells me that it cannot find any drivers.


Well after some examination, the SmartStart drivers are all self extracting executables and therefore device manager could not find them when I told it to. Of course, the self extracting zip files have hugely meaningful names like C453453.EXE making it really obvious to work out what driver set is the one required… not!

Luckily, Ctrl+Alt+Del gave me task manager which allowed me to start a windows explorer session, and I was able to browse to the CD and run the autorun of the SmartStart CD manually. This loaded up HP’s fancy schamsy driver install software that produces a nice friendly report on what system software is missing and proceeds to install it all for you.

SmartStart did its thing, finding all of the driverless hardware and installed the various drivers. A few minutes and a reboot later and SBS2008 reruns its configuration wizard and this time finds the network and allows me to complete the wizard. This triggers another thirty minutes of configuration and another reboot and we have ourselves a small business server!

Cleverworkarounds stress rating: Spider senses subside – back on track?

Next I did something that is a habit that has served me well over the years (until now). I reran the Smartstart CD, now with a network and internet access. This time I told the driver management utility to connect to HP.COM. It scanned HP and reported to me that most drivers on the SmartStart CD were out of date. This is unsurprising because most of the time I do server builds for any vendor, I find that about half of the drivers, BIOS and various firmwares have been replaced by newer versions since the CD was pressed.

Since this is a brand new server build, it is a habit of mine to upgrade to the latest drivers, BIOS and firmware before going any further.

Among the things found to be out of date was the BIOS, the firmware on the RAID Storage controller as well as the network card. The SmartStart software downloaded all of these updates, and another reboot later, all are installed happily. Another hour of patching via Windows update, and we have a ready to go SBS2008 server with WSS3, Exchange, SQL Express and WSUS all configured automatically for you.

Cleverworkarounds stress rating: This SBS2008 stuff isn’t so bad right?

Okay, so things were good so far, but now here is where the fun really begins.

Windows 2008 SBS comes with a pre-installed WSS3 site called http://Companyweb. As we all know, search completely sucks in WSS3. It has a bunch of limitations and isn’t a patch on what you get with MOSS. But no problem – we have Microsoft Search Server Express now, a free upgrade which turns WSS search from complete horribleness to niceness fairly quickly.

For those of you reading this who run WSS3 and have not installed Search Server Express, I suggest you investigate it as it does offer a significant upgrade of functionality. Search server express pretty much makes WSS3 have the same search capabilities of MOSS 2007.

So, I proceeded to install Search Server 2008 express onto this Small Business Server 2008 box. I have installed Search Server Express quite a few times before and I have to admit, it is a tricky install at times. But given that this was a fresh Small Business Server 2008 install and not in production, as well as having successfully installed it on Small Business Server 2003 previously, I felt that I should be safe.

I commenced the Search Server 2008 express install, and the first warning sign that my day was about to turn bad showed itself. The install of search server express only allowed me to choose the “Basic” option. The option that I wanted to use, “Advanced” was greyed out and therefore unavailable.

Cleverworkarounds stress rating: Spider senses tingling again


Knowing this server was not in production, I went ahead and allowed Search Server Express to install as per the forced basic setting. The install itself appeared to work, but it died during the SharePoint configuration wizard. It specifically crapped out on step 9, with the error message

“Failed to create sample data. An exception of type Microsoft.SharePoint.SPException was thrown.  Additional exception information: User cannot be found”.

“Curses!” I say, “another trip to logs folder in the 12 hive”. For the nerds, the log is pasted below.

[SPManager] [INFO] [10/21/2009 3:38:47 PM]: Finished upgrading SPContentDatabase Name=ShareWebDb Parent=SPDatabaseServiceInstance Name=Microsoft##SSEE.
[SPManager] [DEBUG] [10/21/2009 3:38:47 PM]: Using cached [SPContentDatabase Name=ShareWebDb Parent=SPDatabaseServiceInstance Name=Microsoft##SSEE] NeedsUpgrade value: False.
[SharedResourceProviderSequence] [DEBUG] [10/21/2009 3:38:47 PM]: Unable to locate SearchDatabase. Exception thrown was: System.Data.SqlClient.SqlException: Cannot open database "SharedServices_DB_ed3872ca-06b1-44c5-8ede-5a81b52265f9" requested by the login. The login failed.
Login failed for user ‘NT AUTHORITY\NETWORK SERVICE’.
   at System.Data.SqlClient.SqlInternalConnection.OnError(SqlException exception, Boolean breakConnection)
   at System.Data.SqlClient.TdsParser.ThrowExceptionAndWarning(TdsParserStateObject stateObj)
   at System.Data.SqlClient.TdsParser.Run(RunBehavior runBehavior, SqlCommand cmdHandler, SqlDataReader dataStream, BulkCopySimpleResultSet bulkCopyHandler, TdsParserStateObject stateObj)
   at System.Data.SqlClient.SqlInternalConnectionTds.CompleteLogin(Boolean enlistOK)

The long and short of this error takes a little while to explain. First we need to explain the historical difference between SQL Server Express edition and SQL Server Embedded edition (also known as the Windows internal database). From wikipedia:

SQL Server 2005 Embedded Edition (SSEE): SQL Server 2005 Embedded Edition is a specially configured named instance of the SQL Server Express database engine which can be accessed only by certain Windows Services.

SQL Server Express Edition: SQL Server Express Edition is a scaled down, free edition of SQL Server, which includes the core database engine. While there are no limitations on the number of databases or users supported, it is limited to using one processor, 1 GB memory and 4 GB database files.

Why does this matter? Well Microsoft, being the wise chaps that they are, decided that when you perform a SharePoint installation using the “basic” option, different editions of SharePoint use different editions of SQL Server! Mark Walsh explains it here:

  • When you use the "Basic" install option during MOSS 2007 installation it will install and use SQL Server 2005 Express Edition and you have a 4GB database size limit.
  • When you use the "Basic" install option during WSS 3.0 installation it DOES NOT use SQL Express, it uses SQL Server 2005 Embedded edition and it DOES NOT have a 4GB size limit.

It happens that Small Business Server 2008 comes with WSS3 preinstalled. Annoyingly, but unsurprisingly, the Small Business Server team opted to use the BASIC installation mode. As described above, SQL Server Embedded Edition (known on Win2008 as the Windows Internal Database) is used. For reference, WSUS on Small Business Server 2008 also uses this database instance.


Search Server 2008 Express, uses SQL Server Express edition when performing a basic install. As a result, an additional SQL Server Express instance (SERVERNAME\OFFICESERVERS) gets installed onto the Small Business 2008 server. Then, to make matters worse, the installer gets mixed up and installs some Search Server express databases into the new instance (a Shared Service Provider), but then uses the SQL Embedded Edition instance to install other databases (like the searchDB). Then later during the configuration wizard, it cannot find the databases that it needs because it searches the wrong instance!

The net result is the error shown in the log above. I tried all sorts of things like copying the Express databases into the embedded edition, but I couldn’t disentangle this dependency issue. Some parts of SharePoint (the search server express bits no doubt) looked in the SQL Express instance and the WSS bits looked in the Embedded SQL instance. Eventually, conscious of time, I proceeded to uninstall Search Server Express.

Cleverworkarounds stress rating: Some swear words now uttered


Uninstalling Search Server Express was attempted and tells me that it has successfully completed and wants a reboot. Unfortunately SharePoint is now even more hosed than it was before and I tried a few things to get things back on track (psconfig to create a new farm and the like). After more frustration, and conscious of time I decided to uninstall WSS3 altogether and then reinstall it according to the SBS Repair guide for WSS3.

This had the effect of stuffing up WSUS as well! (I assume because it shares the same Windows Internal Database instance), and after a couple of hours of trying all sorts of increasingly hacky ways of getting all of this working, I was forced to give up.

Note: Whatever you do, do not attempt this method. At one point I tried to trick WSS3 into temporarily thinking it was not a basic mode install so get Search Server Express to prompt for Advanced mode, but it made things worse because the configuration database got confused.

Cleverworkarounds stress rating: Installing SharePoint in basic mode is committing a crime against humanity.


Attempt 2


At this point I hear Doctor Smith abusing me like the poor old robot. “You bubble-headed booby, you ludicrous lump, adlepated amateur, dottering dunderhead”.

Since WSUS got completely screwed, as well as the Windows Internal Database through relentless uninstallation and repair attempts, I started to get nervous. Small Business Server 2008 is a very fussy beast. Essentially it can get very upset at seemingly benign changes. I felt that I had messed about so much that I could no longer guarantee the integrity of this server so I wiped clean and reinstalled.

I installed Windows as per the previous method, and once again the install wizard stopped, asking me for a network driver. Once again I popped in the HP SmartStart CD and proceeded to run the driver install program from the SBS configuration wizard.

This time, no network card was detected!

What the? During attempt 1, I happily installed the necessary HP drivers using the same %$^#% SmartStart CD! Why is it not detecting now??

Cleverworkarounds stress rating: Now thinking about how much fun everyone is having in Vegas while I am fighting this server


After some teeth gnashing, the cause of this problem hit me as I was driving home from the site. I had upgraded the firmware of the network card during attempt 1, as well as the storage controller and system BIOS. I realised that the stupid, brain-dead HP network card drivers likely could no longer recognise its own network card with a newer firmware.

The next day I came back refreshed, and found that indeed, there were newer network drivers at the HP site. I downloaded them and extracted them and sure enough, suddenly the network card was found and I was back in business. How dumb is that! Surely if you are going to write a driver, at the very least make it recognise the hardware irrespective of firmware!  

Once I got past this stupid annoyance, it did not take too long for SBS2008 to be installed and ready to go. Remember that WSS3 is installed for you in basic mode, so to change it requires an uninstall of WSS and then to reinstall it in a different mode. But the problem here is SBS2008 and its fussiness about messing with configuration. In going down this path, you risk future service packs and updates breaking because things are not as expected. Additionally you would have to create companyweb manually and it raises the risk of a misconfiguration or mistake along the way.

I logged a call with Microsoft and got a pretty good engineer (hey Ai Wa) and she was able to consistently reproduce all of my issues in the lab, but was unable to work out a supportable fix. In the meantime, I tried to force Search Server 2008 to install into advanced mode using a scripted install, using an article written by my old mate Ben Curry. Alas, I could not bend it to my will and at the time of writing this article, I had to give up on Search Server 2008 with SBS2008 for now.

For what its worth, I know that I can make this work by installing WSS3 differently, but I planned to properly nail this issue in my lab using the out of the box installs and then publish this article, but I didn’t have the sufficient hardware to run Small Business Server 2008. It requires a lot of grunt to run! So I will revisit this issue once my new VM server arrives and post an update.

But there is more…

If the whole Smartstart, network driver, SBS2008 with its dodgy scripted WSS3 install, with Search Server Express dumb installation assumptions were not enough, I hit more dumb things that resulted in showing how ill equipped HP’s support is able to deal with these sorts of issues.

The server, not surprisingly, supplied with a nice hardware RAID configuration and my client opted to buy some additional disk. When the disks arrived and were installed, we found that the RAID controller could see the disks, but we were unable to add the disks to the existing array using HP’s management tools. HP’s “friendly” support was unable to work out the issue and asked me to do things that were never going to work and insulted my intelligence. Eventually I worked out what was going on myself, via HP’s own forums. It turns out that the HP Server requires a write cache module to be able to grow an array. We had one of these installed. Upon further examination by opening up the chassis, we were missing a battery to go with the write cache module. HP were unable to determine the part number that we needed and we ended up working it out ourselves and telling our supplier.

Then HP stuffed up the order and after following up for two weeks, it turned out they accidentally forgot to put the order through to Singapore to get the part. It seemed that once we went outside of the normal supply chain system at HP, it all broke down. After two weeks and numerous calls, they suddenly realised that the part was available in Sydney all along and it was shipped over next day!. The irony was that next day the part from Singapore arrived!

So now we had two batteries.

Grrrr. It shouldn’t be this hard! Why supply a write cache module and not supply the battery! Dumb Dumb Dumb!

Cleverworkarounds stress rating: Really hating HP and Microsoft at this point.


… and piece de resistance!

Okay so we had a few frustrating struggles, but we more or less got there. But here is the absolute showstopper – the final issue that for me, really made me question this IT discipline that I have worked in for twenty years now.

My client rang me on Monday morning to tell me the server was powered off when we arrived on site. This was unusual because the rack was UPS protected and no other devices were off. We ran HP’s diagnostic tools and no faults were reported. The UPS was a fairly recent APC model, and we installed a serial cable to the server and loaded the APC UPS Management software. The software (which looks scarily like what 16 bit apps used to look like in the early 90’s), found the UPS and showed that was all hunky dory.

We decided to perform a battery test using the software. No sooner than I clicked OK, the server powered off with no warning or shutdown. Whoa!!

I put in a call to APC, and was told that the UPS was not compatible with HP’s new fancy shmansy green star rating power supplies. We had to buy a new UPS because of some “sine wave” mumbo jumbo (UPS engineer talk that I really wasn’t interested in). If the UPS switched to battery, this server would think power was dodgy and do a pre-emptive shutdown. The reason that the server was powered off on the Monday morning was that the UPS has a built in self test that runs every 7 days that cannot be disabled!

Cleverworkarounds stress rating: For %%$$ sake!.



Now I don’t know about you, but once a UPS cannot be “compatible” with a server, that’s it – things have gone too far. For crying out loud, a UPS supplies power. How $%#^ hard can that be? How is an organization supposed to get value out of their IT investments with this sort of crap to deal with.

Then add in the added complexity of Blade servers, Citrix, Virtualisation, shared storage, and I truly feel that some sites are sitting on time bombs. The supposed benefits in terms of efficiency, resiliency and scalability that these technologies bring, come at an often intangible and insidious cost – sheer risk from incredible complexity. If you look at this case study of a small organisation putting in a basic server, most of the issues I have encountered are the side effects of this complexity and the lack of ability for the vendors to be able to help with it.

As the global financial crisis has aptly demonstrated, when things are complex and no-one person can understand everything, when something bad does happen, it tends to do it in a spectacularly painful and costly way.

Finally, before you reply to this likely immature rant and tell me I am a whiner, remember this all you Vegas people. You got to have fun and marvel at all the new (complex) SP2010 toys, while I sat on the other side of the planet in a small computer room, all bitter and twisted, sprouting obscenities to HP, Microsoft and APC dealing with this crap. When you put that into perspective, I think this article is quite balanced! 🙂

Thanks for reading

Paul Culmsee

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15 Responses to SBS 2008, Hewlett Packard, WSS3, Search Server 2008 Express and a UPS – Oh the pain!

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  2. Ben says:

    Yeah, that’s why I can see most small businesses moving to cloud services in the next few years. Someone else will have all that stress. Our business model will change to reflect that.

  3. Norm Hughes says:

    Wow and woe… what a tale. Thank God I have just retired!!!

  4. Robert Crane says:

    I’ve been at getting Search Express 2008 to work on SBS 2008 for months now. You can read many of the trials over at my blog, especially

    If you find a solution I’d love to know as I agree that Search Server provides some fantastic technology.

    Robert Crane

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  6. Matthew Damp says:

    As a long time fan of SBS and having done 40 or 50 installs of SBS 4.5, 2000, and 2003, your first couple of comments forshadowed the rest of your comments. At the consulting company I used to work at, I made a long how-to checklist for SBS and I think you hit all of conditions I marked as Important! and Do this or you will regret it.

    The HP raid controller thing is seriously irritating. I can’t understand why the even sell a raid controller that can’t do a dynamic resize. The UPS thing in totally new… ouch!

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  8. Dave says:

    Had the same thing with a UPS – was an APC Smart UPS RS – not the usual APC Smart UPS XL units we use- turns out the output is different, and the power supplies didn’t like. Client tried to save $50 by getting the cheaper UPS, ended up costing much more in downtime… sigh.

  9. James Long says:

    Hi, sorry to hear of all your troubles… Having been through a number of SBS2008 installs myself, the best starting point is to have a read of HP’s support document describing how to install SBS on ProLiant servers…

    With regards to the UPS problem – this is certainly unfortunate, although in my experience not particularly uncommon. To be fair to APC, their website does list which devices are compatible with which servers… and a pre-requisite for any sever deployment should really be to check for any compatibility issues with existing hardware.

  10. HP’s documentation is usually extremely helpful before starting things like this.

  11. Having struggled with similar issues on SBS server installs (including one now, where I am just trying to get the basic search service running on the Company Web in SBS 2008), finding this blog and reading through it was an echo of several chapters in My Book of Life…I couldn’t rant more accurately!

  12. jcataford says:

    I’ve figured this out (got the information from another site after spending way too much time looking and trying different approaches). Thought I’d post it on here since this is pretty much at the top of the search results when searching for search server express and sbs2008.

    All you need to do is make one small change in the registry before you install search server express, and then it will allow you to choose the advanced install and the config wizard will run through successfully.

    Change “\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Shared Tools\Web Server Extensions\12.0\WSS\ServerRole” from “SINGLESERVER” to “APPLICATION”, run the search server install, and then you can change the key back.

    That’s it!

  13. admin says:

    I tried this and bad… bad things happened. Glad it worked for you though

  14. jcataford says:

    Just to give the proper individual credit, here’s the link where I found the solution:

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